not bad.

 

Can you please explain this AMD Curve Optimizer Boost ? Is it something specific to the MSI boards ?

Well I do not know anything technical about it, I google it and it lead me here to forum member and a guy who knows his stuff @elmor great thread

Ryzen 9 5950X Curve Optimizer to 5.1 GHz, PBO and...

Zen 3 is here The much anticipated Zen 3 architecture has finally been launched close to a year and a half after Zen 2 while remaining on the same 7nm TSMC process. AMD's recently released Ryzen 3000XT showed there are frequency gains to be had just by manufacturing improvements over time. The...

www.overclock.net

 

but for gaming things just go interesting for intel @Nizzen

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EK, the leading computer cooling solutions provider, announces the release of its EK-QuantumX Delta TEC water block. With more than 15 years of experience as a leader in premium quality cooling solutions, EK, in collaboration with Intel, has developed a next-level solution for enthusiasts...

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Z490 New bios with new feature OCTVB

you can tell the bios for the model from the link names: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kl65p17gjpbiyx4/ROG-STRIX-Z490-I-GAMING-ASUS-0901.rar?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/xng2l0aupm72osv/ROG-STRIX-Z490-H-GAMING-ASUS-0901.rar?dl=0...

rog.asus.com

MCE explanations and others

MCE I’m seeing quite a lot of misunderstanding the workings of MCE so I’m partly writing this to address it. It is not the taboo that it has been made up to become. There are 3 options for it, namely Auto, enabled and disabled. Enabled merely maxes out Power...

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its gonna be ridoncolous

Crazy day today

WOOT!

 

OK sure video description had the PC used Idle tempetures high 20°C-low 30°C depend on how long hwinfo64 is open and not running programs in back ground like startup's
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PC gaming depends on game . First post video of three games were all in the 50's °C

40 Minutes Gameplay,may still be processing it was at 1080P HDR when published .
I did not watch full video glanced thru video and CPU temperatures were normal high 40 °C-50 °C at CPU 5000Mhz on cores

AMD 5800X 5000Mhz RTX 3080 4K HDR 60 FPS Assassin's Creed Valhalla

I just ran cinebench20 back to back.At normal cinebench20 setting to not skew the score or inflate my epeen
Cinebench single core - 650+
Multi- 6089 and all core clock 4625Mhz
CPU RPM Fans spun up to 75% and 75°C

 

OK sure video description had the PC used Idle tempetures high 20°C-low 30°C depend on how long hwinfo64 is open and not running programs in back ground like startup's
Cheapest AIO around after rebate I paid $50 Canadian/$38USD/$158 Romanian Leu
Coolermaster MasterLiquid Lite ML240L RGB AIO

PC gaming depends on game . First post video of three games were all in the 50's °C

40 Minutes Gameplay,may still be processing it was at 1080P HDR when published .
I did not watch full video glanced thru video and CPU temperatures were normal high 40 °C-50 °C at CPU 5000Mhz on cores

AMD 5800X 5000Mhz RTX 3080 4K HDR 60 FPS Assassin's Creed Valhalla

I just ran cinebench20 back to back.At normal cinebench20 setting to not skew the score or inflate my epeen
Cinebench single core - 650+
Multi- 6089 and all core clock 4625Mhz
CPU RPM Fans spun up to 75% and 75°C

Thanks mate. I also saw in one of your vids or posts (forgot where) that MSI boards have a +500mhz core boost option, what can you tell me about it ? Did you try it at +500, is it any change ? I ask because Gigabyte boards have only a +200 mhz option and that's all.

 

You're getting way good temps.
That seems to be the driving factor in performance.

I've got a H100i v2 and I"m only getting like 605 SC R20 bench, MC is similar scaling.

 

MSI does have 500Mhz boost. I used 2600X/3600x/3600XT/3800XT/5800X . AMD has fixed PBO boost on AMD 5xxx cpu's.

All motherboard's have +200Mhz except MSI at +500Mhz but it does not really mean anything.

So If I set my PBO to 500Mhz with other settings maxed out I have seen 5200Mhz
So If I set my PBO to 200Mhz with other settings maxed out I have seen 5050Mhz

Again it is just a higher number and does not mean anything,do not get caught up in the number.

What all AMD 5xxx owners should use now or in the future with updates is to use AMD Curve Optimizer + boost 200Mhz feature.That will be best path to take.

I recorded a full start to finish Cinebench20 run HWinfo64 on for ya

 

MSI does have 500Mhz boost. I used 2600X/3600x/3600XT/3800XT/5800X . AMD has fixed PBO boost on AMD 5xxx cpu's.

All motherboard's have +200Mhz except MSI at +500Mhz but it does not really mean anything.

So If I set my PBO to 500Mhz with other settings maxed out I have seen 5200Mhz
So If I set my PBO to 200Mhz with other settings maxed out I have seen 5050Mhz

Again it is just a higher number and does not mean anything,do not get caught up in the number.

What all AMD 5xxx owners should use now or in the future with updates is to use AMD Curve Optimizer + boost 200Mhz feature.That will be best path to take.

I recorded a full start to finish Cinebench20 run HWinfo64 on for ya

Thanks alot mate.

 

Also, what score you got in C20 with this test ? Or it crashed ?

 

I did not run it,I just started it and turned it off. I am running 5100Mhz all cores right now ran the test here is what I got. I will post 5200 if I get no whea errors.So basically it is overclocking I am not rushing ,I can say what the chip can do but I will not run if unstable,also you know I am rccording the scores with Nvidia shadowplay on and everything running so I am not going for high score and cinebench is default.I am not trying to be an butt head ,just letting you know.

5100Mhz single clock -all core clock 4750. I will post video in a few minutes it is processing

 

Pretty nice mate, but how you set it to do exactly 5100 boost ?

 

Well if you like buying CPU gear ,hey why not. You do understand it will make 0% difference in performance but if you like big numbers than have at it.I have had 3 different CPU's in this MSI X570 Tomahawk this week alone ,so I am bad on giving advice.

 

OK you clearly have not read what I wrote or did not understand what I wrote or to fixated on the 500Mhz thing.

I try again to be more clear as I already done what you asked and I can write confusing stuff,so that will be my fault.

PBO boost alone has short millisecond boost to highest attainable clock speed when all things are good to keep the electrical, thermal, and/or utilization headroom under control and within safe parameters .The boost clock is not sustainable for more than a few milliseconds.

When using the MSI 500+ adds no performance to anything over other Motherboards than all have 200+. It just shows a bigger clock speed for millisecond. In no way shape or form should this be used as a reason to buy an MSI Motherboard.

AMD curve optimizer(AMD still working on this) + PBO whatever offset when set with your motherboard+CPU correctly when all things are good to keep the electrical, thermal, and/or utilization headroom under control and within safe parameters will have a higher sustained boost clock which is 100% better than PBO alone.

Now I already showed you in this thread and the screen shot you posted in the other elmor AMD optimized thread is only with PBO 500+ boost and hit 5200+ is a brief millisecond boost which is not sustainable at all on any computer unless when all things are good to keep the electrical, thermal, and/or utilization headroom under control and within safe parameters will have a higher sustained boost clock such as LN@ cooling at -190°C.

Now as I explained in Post#20 on how to use PBO + AMD curve optimizer and the MSI +500 can come into play with higher sustained boost speeds but only if and the if will be extremely rare that your CPU can handle the higher sustained boost clocks along with the voltage when all things are good to keep the electrical, thermal, and/or utilization headroom under control and within safe parameters.

So yes with a MSI motherboard and the 500+ technically can achieve higher sustained boost clock than other motherboard with 200+ boost.
AMD has made these CPU's so smart/good and the same that it would be extremely rare silicone luck to get a CPU along with a MSI motherboard with the 500+ Boost to even get 1% more performance than over any other CPU and motherboard with 200+ boost.

As I said a few times if you like big numbers than that is all the MSI motherboards can give you with 500+ boost. As I also said there is no real performance gain,yeah you might get a bigger number as I shown in Cinebench 20 from 5050Mhz max on 200+ boost motherboard to MSI motherboard with 500+boost capable at 5100Mhz ,still there will be no real difference in performance unless you do benchmarks like Cinebench 20 all day.

Now I also said if I can get stable as in post #20 past 5100Mhz with AMD curve optimizer ,I will post the results.I f I can not get stable past 5100Mhz I will not bother showing just for my epeen.
So it boils down right now that My MSI motherboard has a 50Mhz advantage over other normal motherboards without any BIOS like ASUS DOS Overclocking .

I hope I get my point across more clearly this time. If not let me know.

 

So yes with a MSI motherboard and the 500+ technically can achieve higher sustained boost clock than other motherboard with 200+ boost.

That was all I needed mate. Thanks and keep up the good work !

 

Your welcome

 

AMD 5800X AMD Curve Optimizer Boost set to 5050Mhz for all cores and good temperatures when PC gaming. So basically when all things are good thermal,electrical ETC all cores have the ability to boost up to 5050Mhz.

VF-offset curve optimizer chart My 5800X-subject to change with new agesa release

AMD Curve Optimizer Voltage Offset 5800X - Google Drive

docs.google.com

Timestamp and BIOS settings

Cinebench -Single core 653 - 0:01
The Dark Pictures Anthology LittleHope - 0:23
Assassin's Creed Valhalla - 0:37
Metro Exodus - 0:48

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Full CinebenchR23 Run for those interested,test lasted like 30 minutes
Single core - 1663
Multi Score - 15538
Idle temperatures- 29°C
Full AVX load -79.8°C

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Full Cinebench20 Run for those interested

Single core 656
Multi Score - 6179
Idle temperatures- 29°C
Full AVX load -76.5°C

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My AMD Curve Optimizer per core

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Before you started using CO, how were your temps? Your temps are really good considering you're running at 1.312 during MC benchmark. I think there's something wrong with the IHS installation of most 5800x in the market. Yours seems to be correctly done hence, has the good temps.

 

I pretty much started using curve optimizer as soon as I installed the 5800X.Before I installed the 5800X I have moved the AIO radiator from a top mount exhaust to a front mounnt intake of cool air because of my RTX 3080 heated up the CPU by an extra 15°C while PC gaming.This is the reason my CPU temperatures are normal on my 5800X or I just received a good one and some others are crap.
I did try PBO and boost was 4950Mhz in games and temperatures 40°C -50°C range still the same as curve optimizer.
I went to my youtube games and I have played 11 different PC games and the temperatures are all around the same.

My $40USD CPU cooler is all I needed to cool 5800X.Bought the CPU cooler two years ago.

 

i already have my 240mm aio setup as front intake. i think you got lucky with yours check out all these peaople experiencing high temps 5800X Temperatures & R20 Scores

 

Yes I know about this I am #62 entry on the list. If I left top mount I would be 15°C higher

 

I switched too NVME on both slots and PCIE NVME adaptor to test X570 Tomahawk for BCLK,the BIOS is still not very good on the motherboard yet for BCLK but I am able to do enough tweaking to run as this thread says ,so no need for BCLK anyway for me

 

Latest BIOS for B550 Aorus Pro has added the curve optimizer.

5800X currently running core 0&7 at -5 and the rest at -20.
0&7 are the preferred cores for max boost and prime95 would quickly fail a single threaded test unless these cores had a lower value.
Currently this runs Cinebench at 4766MHz MC 5016MHz SC.
R23 MC score is 16589

boost override +175
PBO power limits Auto which = stock

Edit:
It seems Ryzen master needs to be running for those settings to work as it limits the single core boost to the first and last core otherwise windows lets it land on any core and prime95 single thread will fail instantly.

 

AMD Adaptive Undervolting + AMD Curve Optimizer next BIOS/Agesa update in December is up to 2% single core and up to 10% multi core,should be fun testing.

 

Finally the X570-E Strix from ASUS got the curve optimizer in todays BIOS update, - will experiment and test on my 5800x

officialsite

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Nice now all you need is AMD Adaptive Undervolting + AMD Curve Optimizer

 

Testing 5175Mhz

 

What are you guys using to test stability? I've been playing with this on my 5800x as well. I settled so far on -10 for 6 of my cores and -3 on my 2 best cores. 2 good tests so far to determine stabilty are OCCT Large (you will error like crazy if unstable) and this tests all-core pretty well. I used CB23 single core test to check stability of my top 2 cores. The program will error or crash if your top 2 cores are unstable. Is my logic correct so far with how to setup the curve optimizer? The only thing I haven't played with is scalar which is left on auto.

 

So if you changed other things while OC, how did you set up these PPT (W) TDC (A) EDC (A) limits?

 

Not understanding your question. I just set motherboard limits.

 

If you want to know what the limits are, install Ryzen Master and you can look.

 

Yepper I agree ,I was just suggesting something different with warning of clock stretching,it was just a copy and paste of a post I made to someone else having temperature problems which I did not agree with the person that they actually had temperature problem.

 

I've only had my 5800x since Saturday so not a lot of time to tinker. I thought I was stable with -3 on my 2 highest ranked cores and -10 with everything else. I could pass OCCT Large 1 hour and my single core test was CB23 and it passed. For some reason I am having trouble passing CB23 single at -3 as it errors out. I had to drop down to -2 to pass. When I first started using the CPU I swear I passed at -5 and -15 at least once. Maybe I'm doing this all wrong. Should I be choosing the negative optimizer value differently? I know the CPU is supposed to tell us which cores are the best (in my mind that means it should be able to handle the lowest voltage at the highest clocks).

 

My 5800X is not the best out there either. With PBO at stock, running CB20, the eight cores would not even hit 4450MHz multicore and the single core boost was shy of 4850MHz.
Now, I'm currently using -5 for the best two cores, and -10 for the rest of them. These are my results:

So now the multicore with CB20 is close to 4500MHz and one core boost sometimes hitting 5GHz. Besides, the max temperatures have decreased as well, from a maximum of low 90º to low 80º using Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 AIO.

Cheers.

 

@MikeS3000
It is overclocking and what was once stable on one restart may not be stable on another restart. You need to test your own CPU and Motherboard. I been testing for 3 weeks so far I am not finished testing. 5800X is one of the fastest CPU you can buy ,if you want instant overclocking that works let AMD Ryzen CPU do its own thing . You can not go wrong there. Stop worrying about a couple points in Cinebench it is just not good for sanity,but if you can not leave it alone then here something to shoot for ,of course I am only testing 5175Mhz now and will hit 5200Mhz next week for even better scores.
Serious though the 5800X is good out of the box.

 

@gerardfraser I totally get it and yes this CPU is awesome at default settings. I think all cores touch 5850 with touching a single setting. Like most of us on this forum I want to squeeze the most out of my purchase. I am just trying to find a method to tweaking the curve optimizer per core and want to make sure I'm on the right track. I thought about running CB23 single and then setting affinity to just the core I want to test and play with curve optimizer settings. What do you think? Also, i see that you are getting these great scores with PBO limits set on "auto". Did you test higher values for PPT, EDC and and TDC?