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1st Build in 7 Years, i7-4790k...PC won't POST.

526 views 17 replies 8 participants last post by  seross69  
#1 ·
I posted this in the general discussion too to get more exposure.

Ok, So Today...Friday the 13th, I decided to put together my first build in a long time. I am recycling a few parts from my old PC into the new one. My old system was an Q6700 with 4Gb G.Skill DDR2 on an Asus Maximus formula with a GT8800, WIFI Card, 7.1 Audio Card, and 2 mechanical HDDs. I recently installed a Samsung 850 EVO SSD and Blu-ray drive which game me the upgrade itch. My power supply is a Cosair 550W modular. Everything worked like a top this am when I shut it down.

The New system recycles most everything except now I have an i7 4790k, 16Gb G.Skill Ares DDR3 1600, MSI z97s SLI Krait Edition, and new cooler. I assembled everything together excitedly hit the power button and nothing. No Post, no beep, no nothing. So I laid it on its side and took the cover off. Hit the power button again and nothing. Cycled the Power supply switch and when I pressed the power button the CPU fan and Video Card fan powered up. The 3 case fans remained still. The CD drives do not open, and I am pretty sure my hard drives spin but are not very audible. Obviously the SSD does not spin. If I hold the power button the system shuts off and I get a steady blue light blinking on the motherboard and it won't power back on until I cycle the power supply. I checked all of my connections 10 times over, verified Ram was seated and in the correct slots, So little by little I removed every device and tried again with the same result. I got down to the onboard video, processor and ram only with the same result.

So Like I said there was a steady blinking blue light that only disappeared when I cycled the power, well I decided to clear the CMOS by just touching the jumpers and the blue light disappeared without having to restart the PSU. I'm pretty sure it is the MOBO but I am looking for some verification. I did try different DIMM slots and 1 and 2 RAM stick configurations with no luck. I am actually doing this all at work and I don't have access tonight to a multimeter but I may be able to utilize the computer In my office to test RAM.

Throw me some thoughts!
 
#3 ·
My first check, to isolate potential issues, is the power supply.

What I'd do is either

A) Power another machine with that PSU or
B) Use another PSU to power the new rig.

If the behavior follows the PSU, that's it. If not, then....

When I look at the CPU compatibility list, I see 4790K listed, and I only see one version of BIOS for that board, suggesting you're probably ok on BIOS support.

I have that G.Skill RAM....it should be good (good deal at the time, on sale).

I have a problem assuming the motherboard because of this:

DVD Drives don't open.

They should open even if you remove the data cable.

Try powering one from another machine's PSU (just hang it off the side) and prove the drive opens.

If it does on the alternate machine, but not your PSU...and the PSU is at least turning something on (like fans, it's OWN fan)...then I suspect the PSU.

I'll keep an eye out.....

Oh, cables, cables, cables. Most often it's cables...well, connector seating.

Verify if you have all 24 pins inserted (or 20 of that's the board's need, don't think so)...and that the other power cable (usually some 6 or 8 pin, sometimes a 4 pin) is also connected to the motherboard.

Verify the connect is fully seated. Mine are REALLY tough. If my nail can be inserted between the board's connector and the PSU's connector, it's not fully seated. Could be it.
 
#4 ·
I'm going to hookup all the hardware to the PSU I was using before I sterted the build and see what I get...I won't have access to another power supply unit tomorrow and I have a sick kid at home and am supposed to go on a road trips round noon to see duke vs Syracuse....I hope I can figure it out soon enough. If it turns out to be the mobo Im gonna my to return that sucker and hopefully go with an ASUS Maximus VII Hero
 
#5 ·
Ok, So I propped up my old Mobo on a cardboard box, plugged in my video card, reconnected all the necessary power connectors and guess what? The fans and lights on the GPU will briefly spin/light up, The cd drives do not work, and the mobo will flash lights...It worked this am but to me this seems to be a convincing sign of death...7 years and 1000's of hours I guess I'm lucky to have gotten so much time from my PSU. I was kind a hoping it was the mobo because I had talked myself into buying another asus maximus...but alas it is the PSU. Fortunately I can slide over to best buy and grab one real quick so I don't have to wait for an RMA and UPS...This guy is impatient. I well give an update once it is up and running!

My local Best buy has a Cosair CX750M for 79.99, that not too bad. 89.99 on new egg and tiger direct!
 
#6 ·
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Originally Posted by airmike532 View Post

Ok, So I propped up my old Mobo on a cardboard box, plugged in my video card, reconnected all the necessary power connectors and guess what? The fans and lights on the GPU will briefly spin/light up, The cd drives do not work, and the mobo will flash lights...It worked this am but to me this seems to be a convincing sign of death...7 years and 1000's of hours I guess I'm lucky to have gotten so much time from my PSU. I was kind a hoping it was the mobo because I had talked myself into buying another asus maximus...but alas it is the PSU. Fortunately I can slide over to best buy and grab one real quick so I don't have to wait for an RMA and UPS...This guy is impatient. I well give an update once it is up and running!
7 years is most certainly as far as most PSU's can go.

The capacitors....they can't take the pounding.
 
#7 ·
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Originally Posted by airmike532 View Post

Ok, So I propped up my old Mobo on a cardboard box, plugged in my video card, reconnected all the necessary power connectors and guess what? The fans and lights on the GPU will briefly spin/light up, The cd drives do not work, and the mobo will flash lights...It worked this am but to me this seems to be a convincing sign of death...7 years and 1000's of hours I guess I'm lucky to have gotten so much time from my PSU. I was kind a hoping it was the mobo because I had talked myself into buying another asus maximus...but alas it is the PSU. Fortunately I can slide over to best buy and grab one real quick so I don't have to wait for an RMA and UPS...This guy is impatient. I well give an update once it is up and running!

My local Best buy has a Cosair CX750M for 79.99, that not too bad. 89.99 on new egg and tiger direct!
NICE!!!

TCO
 
#9 ·
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Originally Posted by airmike532 View Post

Ok, So I propped up my old Mobo on a cardboard box, plugged in my video card, reconnected all the necessary power connectors and guess what? The fans and lights on the GPU will briefly spin/light up, The cd drives do not work, and the mobo will flash lights...It worked this am but to me this seems to be a convincing sign of death...7 years and 1000's of hours I guess I'm lucky to have gotten so much time from my PSU. I was kind a hoping it was the mobo because I had talked myself into buying another asus maximus...but alas it is the PSU. Fortunately I can slide over to best buy and grab one real quick so I don't have to wait for an RMA and UPS...This guy is impatient. I well give an update once it is up and running!

My local Best buy has a Cosair CX750M for 79.99, that not too bad. 89.99 on new egg and tiger direct!
That corsair power supply is not that great either, i would recommend the EVGA super nova 850 G2 since im pretty sure bestbuy carry's that also.
 
#12 ·
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Originally Posted by undertaxxx View Post

could you tell me why it is "not that great" ?
If you search the reviews that tear down the power supply, you'll read that there are a number of compromises in heatsinks, capacitor choices and filtering designs. It's ok, but it is NOT built with components known to be required for high durability and reliability. Corsair, however, is known to have very good customer service, so it's backed by a solid warranty.

A unit like the EVGA, by contrast, is built with much better choices, especially capacitors, heat sinks, fan quality and overall design theory.

The Corsair is made by CWT. They have been ok, and some are actually good, but none reach the great category of Seasonic or others.

The EVGA is a Superflower build. They're a smaller company than, say, Seasonic, but they pay attention to detail and do quality work. There are Superflower units with many names on the case, and EVGA is well liked here.

I happen to have a Superflower 750 in my machine with the Rosewill CAPSTONE brand on the case. That's almost embarrassing, because Rosewill is like a "house brand" for a popular retailer, but the guts are all Superflower. It was a steal with a rebate (that I actually received), considering how it responded when tested. It's not a Seasonic, but the guts have the same kind of quality design choices...high end, high temperature capacitors, really good heatsink treatment, etc. It's one of the few rated at 50C for continuous 750 operation in it's category. It also comes with a 7 year warranty.

The EVGA is even better.

When companies retail a PSU built by an OEM, as the EVGA and Corsair do, they start with that builder's base design concept (some particular model), and elect certain options to either aim for higher quality or lower build cost. The brand name, therefore, has a minor contribution to the actual result, but it's minor.

Seasonic builds OEM for a lot of other brands, and they sell under their own name, too. You'll find minor differences in the other brands of the same design, usually leaving the Seasonic variant as the higher quality and pricier option.

Corsair is choosing middle of the road, keeping costs down while minimizing risk of a rash of warranty claims. Lots of people really like the Corsairs, but that's probably due to customer service more than the actual content of the products. They've had some real loosers.
 
#13 ·
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Originally Posted by airmike532 View Post

I went with the Cosair PSU, and I would interested in hearing why the thermaltake is better, it definitely is more expensive. The Cosair is modular, has a 3yr warranty, and is more than 80% efficient. That and the good name satisfy my needs.
OEM brand names don't mean anything. Also nobody said anything about thermaltake. the brand recommended was EVGA.

check out a few threads from our friendly neighborhood PSU guru Shilka.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1431436/why-you-should-not-buy-a-corsair-cx/0_20
http://www.overclock.net/t/1455892/why-you-might-not-want-to-buy-a-corsair-rm-psu/0_20

then check out the recommended power supply FAQ:http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies
 
#14 ·
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Originally Posted by airmike532 View Post

I went with the Cosair PSU, and I would interested in hearing why the thermaltake is better, it definitely is more expensive. The Cosair is modular, has a 3yr warranty, and is more than 80% efficient. That and the good name satisfy my needs.
It is a decent PSU but is the lower end of quaility!! For that price i am sure you can get a lot better PSU. You are paying a premium for the name and I personally have had bad luck with their products!!

Nothing wrong with it and if you are in a hurry keep it and use it!!
 
#15 ·
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Originally Posted by undertaxxx View Post

could you tell me why it is "not that great" ?
honestly no i cant, i just know that it is not something i would want to power my computer with.
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maybe @shilka could explain why the CX750M is "not so great" and possibly recommend a good PSU for airmike.

EDIT just noticed airmike already picked up a PSU.
 
#16 ·
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Originally Posted by lilchronic View Post

honestly no i cant, i just know that it is not something i would want to power my computer with.
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maybe @shilka could explain why the CX750M is "not so great" and possibly recommend a good PSU for airmike.
Shilka has already explained this. Please see my post above.
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Originally Posted by XanderTheGoober View Post

OEM brand names don't mean anything. Also nobody said anything about thermaltake. the brand recommended was EVGA.

check out a few threads from our friendly neighborhood PSU guru Shilka.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1431436/why-you-should-not-buy-a-corsair-cx/0_20
http://www.overclock.net/t/1455892/why-you-might-not-want-to-buy-a-corsair-rm-psu/0_20

then check out the recommended power supply FAQ:http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies
EDIT: although he said the cx 750 is not same as the one i linked. OOPS my mistake.
 
#17 ·
Shilka does state that he is not talking about the CX750M when he's questioning the quality of the CX series
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So i am going to make this thread and give you reasons why its not as good as many make it out to be and why you sould not buy it for those type of PC´s.
Before i start i just want to say the CX750 is not the same PSU as the CX430/500/600 which is why i dont talk about the CX750 here