Hehe, Was requested to post result in this thread while maintaining a PM with Manni.

Tested with SSH (CPUDoc Tool), Intel High Performance/Snappy/LowPower with E core on = No more Stuttering on troublesome game like Division 2.
NZ Feature as spoken with Manni, It's still broken with current version 1.1.6 for Intel 12/13th user

I do not recommend LowPower Plan at all as it has the worst input latency
High Performance>Snappy when input latency are a factor

Of course, OP definitely need alot of other Intel 12/13 user to help on the test as currently there only OP with his friend rig and my friend helping out on the test so progress will be very slow.

 

Plans will import on Win11, but I had to UNHIDE some power setting in order to see the additional parameters for Processor Power Management are missing. Looks good on Win10.

 

Plans will import on Win11, but additional parameters for Processor Power Management are missing. Looks good on Win10.

Thanks for the feedback!

 

@ManniX-ITA - Feel free to delete or use for updates for quick installs of power plans for testing.

I am on Windows 11 and wanted to try these power plans.Done up a 1 click install for the plans incase someone does not know how to install power plans.
Google Drive

ManniX-ITA Power Plans With 1 Click Install.7z

drive.google.com

The read me for download.Will work on all windows 10/11 but I am on windows 11

Spoiler

To install ManniX-ITA Power plans and Windows 11 Ultimate Power Plan-These will work on other Windows systems

Extract zip file to anywhere and click on install.bat
Hit any key to close command prompt
Pick Power Plan from pop up
I included original Windows 11 power plans incase anything goes wrong.(I use Windows 11)
I also removed the TM from ManniX-ITA original files for installing his powerplans.

 

@ManniX-ITA - Feel free to delete or use for updates for quick installs of power plans for testing.

Thanks for sharing, I should have spent a bit of effort on an install batch

May I ask why removing the TM?
I never had an issue installing from command line but I never tried it in a batch file.
I'll work on something!

 

I have updated the power plans with specific versions with Windows 11 based on the Ultimate power plan.

Highly recommended to test if you are using Windows 11.
All plans except the Ultimate have a latency and performance issue; I've verified it only with AMD so feedback is welcome.

 

Interesting.

 

Added a simple batch file for install (thx @gerardfraser !)

 

Going to test Intel 13700KF with CPU boost Clock set to 6000Mhz-6200Mhz on Intel Core Ultimate Performance Win11 v1-Backup-2022.30.11-20.06.40.

I will just be checking out some PC Games boosting to 6000Mhz-6200Mhz and see if there is a noticeable difference from other power plans.
Not FPS wise in PC Gaming but duration of CPU boost clocks.Everyone loves the bigger numbers even when they do not even make a difference,I will post a video if I can notice CPU boost clock differences in PC Gaming.

Thanks for sharing the power plans

 

What settings in power plan did you change that you felt improved latency consistency for amd (im on intel tested below)?

7800c34, 13900kf, windows 11 latest update, this is at least 15 mins after boot so no delay start programs or updating causing fluctuating latency:
normal win 11 high performance mode: 54.0 53.2 53.5 53.2 53.2 53.6 53.1 53.3 53.7 53.2
installed win 11 ultimate perfor. mode: 54.1 53.2 53.2 53.8 53.4 53.1 53.4 53.2 53.4 53.1

The first latency in each higher because ran full aidat64, other 9 just double clicked latency: If I run latency within few minutes of booting, latency will be all over the place with both plans.

Windows power saver plans allow min processor state below 100% so can increase latency.

I never used "power saver" plan, but just ran aida64 with it on, and yeah bandwidth all over the place (very low on some), latency was 58ns first run, basically processor at low power state. win 11 could improve that.

But high power mode on wind 11 doesnt seem to have any bandwidth or latency issues for my intel 13900k (though I also have c states off in bios which may play a role).

 

What settings in power plan did you change that you felt improved latency consistency for amd (im on intel tested below)?

It's a combination of Ultimate plan and heterogeneous settings.

The Heterogeneous policy default is 4, AMD works better on 0 now. Higher FPS in gaming.
But I'm not sure with Intel, I only can test via Teamviewer and running AIDA over it, it's not very reliable.
You can try with 0 or 1 using QuickCPU.
Remember that 2 and 3 are to enable/disable P/E-Cores, don't use them.

On AMD with policy 0 and Ultimate is not enough to make it run very consistent after the last patch.
I had also to change the scheduling policy for foreground/background threads to Prefer Performant/Prefer Efficient.
Default is Auto/Prefer Performant.
You can give it a try.

7800c34, 13900kf, windows 11 latest update, this is at least 15 mins after boot so no delay start programs or updating causing fluctuating latency:
normal win 11 high performance mode: 54.0 53.2 53.5 53.2 53.2 53.6 53.1 53.3 53.7 53.2
installed win 11 ultimate perfor. mode: 54.1 53.2 53.2 53.8 53.4 53.1 53.4 53.2 53.4 53.1

I don't know how consistent is the 13th Gen normally.
These results have much less variance than my 5950X with Win11 without the Ultimate plan and all the settings above.

 

For anyone interested 13Th Gen Test in PC Gaming for CPU Boost clocks with 4 different power plans and 3 games,only 3 games tested because that is all I felt like editing

Tested On 13700KF with Windows 11 22H2 (OS Buile 22621.900) with Different Power Plans Up To 6000Mhz.

I set CPU clocks at 5800Mhz low to 6000Mhz max.May be easier to see CPU boost clocks in PC Games tested.

Power Plans tested for CPU boost clocks
High Performance Win11
Ultimate Performance Win11
Intel Core Ultimate LowPower Win11 v1-By Mannix
Intel Core Ultimate Performance Win11 v1-By Mannix

I tested 3 different games,two game just running around the other game a cut scene to see CPU boost clocks.

I also did not bother syncing to the 0.001 of a second,was just testing to see boost clocks.
00::00 BioShock2Remastered
00:36 Cutscene-The Devil In Me
01:31 Alien Isolation

 

Tested On 13700KF with Windows 11 22H2 (OS Buile 22621.900) with Different Power Plans Up To 6000Mhz.

I set CPU clocks at 5800Mhz low to 6000Mhz max.May be easier to see CPU boost clocks in PC Games tested.

What is the outcome on your opinion?
Would be nice to see some in-game benchmark result.
Like SotTR or F1 22 or similar.

It seems with Ultimate LowPower the clocks are stuck at 5800.
True is LowPower but doesn't look right...

 

If someone likes gaming benchmarking, this is what to look for when comparing my power plans with a 13900K/13700K:

Both the 13600K and 13700K are providing very often much better lows than the 13900K.
I've seen this in many reviews, not only from GN.

In theory with my Ultimate Performance power plan you should get better min fps, or 0.1/1% lows if provided, against the standard Ultimate Performance.
You should also get better min/lows disabling E-Cores and sometimes also reducing the P-Cores to 6.

 

Both the 13600K and 13700K are providing very often much better lows than the 13900K.
I've seen this in many reviews, not only from GN.

In theory with my Ultimate Performance power plan you should get better min fps, or 0.1/1% lows if provided, against the standard Ultimate Performance.
You should also get better min/lows disabling E-Cores and sometimes also reducing the P-Cores to 6.

I believe that is due to some games disliking too many cores/threads. And some games do need the e-cores on (at least ONE).
Even with a 13700k it should be better disabling 4 e-cores, HT or both. Unfortunately almost nobody tries that. One guy in the RPL main thread swears by disabling HT on his 13900k.

 

Do you reckon Win 11 Ult LowPower Plan work for Win 10 User or are you gonna create a Win 10 version?

 

I reckon that I forgot about it

I'll indeed create a Ultimate LowPower and maybe an Ultimate HighPower to replace the High Performance.

 

Just tested the Ultimate LowPower on Windows 11, with a i9 12900k
Is this normal that all P core runs all the time at 5-5.1ghz idle and the E core runs at 3.9ghz idle?

 

Just tested the Ultimate LowPower on Windows 11, with a i9 12900k
Is this normal that all P core runs all the time at 5-5.1ghz idle and the E core runs at 3.9ghz idle?

What is the behavior with the High Performance or the Ultimate?

 

CPUDoc new b5 build:

CPUDoc-v1.1.7-dev-b5.zip

drive.google.com

 

you the man Its working like a charm , thanks a lot bro!

 

Latest b6build, ZenControl fixed:

CPUDoc-v1.1.7-dev-b6.zip

drive.google.com

 

On the CPUDocDynamicW11_v2_Balanced, the Ring clock doesn't do on 800MHz at Idle.

 

Greetings to Mannix and all here, new to this older discussion.

? My question:?
In Summary from what I've ascertained as of reading this post:
the gist then is to leave the E-Cores on? And use QuickCPU to leave all cores unparked?
My testing: Prior to Updating to Windows 11 22H2 latest version: was able to park just the E-Cores using the Gigabyte DRM Fix tool on High or Ultimate Power Plans. Ultimate pow imported.


--the Current status
After a fresh install of 22H2 and latest build version, and updates, the other day, this app no longer works.
In BIOS is a setting to completely turn off E-Cores by setting to Gaming mode. This no longer works.

I don't know what happened.

With 22H2 the latest build on this Desktop, after all the updates is 22621.ni_release.220506-1250.

The tested results or findings as of these new updates of Windows:
1. Cannot unpark cores with BIOS or standard High, Ultimate Power Plans from. Cores park and unpark on their own.
2. Cannot park E-Cores. In High or Ultimate Power Plans Standard out of box.

With 22H2 before all these new updates: slightly older build:
1 Could unpark all cores
2 Could park E-Cores.

With 21H2
1 Could unpark all cores.
2 Could park E-Cores.

With the latest Updates To Windows 11 22H2 latest build:
1) Running QuickCPU all cores unparked, but cannot park just the E-Cores.
2) with the Ultimate Power Plans from here, all cores seem to park and unpark based on need.
However they do not remain unparked nor can park just E-Cores. BIOS settings have no affect.
Legacy Gaming Mode and Gaming Mode.

Two methods to park E-Cores on this board.
1. Setting to Gaming mode.
2. Legacy Gaming mode > using keyboard or drm fix tool to initiate on the fly park/unpark at will.

Intel CPU is Core i5 12600KF
Gigabyte B660 DS3 AC DDR4 Y1 board

I found Ultimate Power plan from parkcontrol installed it.
I found here and installed all the plans for Ultimate.
--END

 

I just installed the intel version but it does not show up on power plans section. What do I do?

 

Try using QuickCPU to import the plan.
Some users had the same issue and solved it changing the name of the plan with:

powercfg /changename GUID NAME

 

I'm going to import the plan with QuickCPU and then use the code to rename it. Did I got it right?

P.S: I didn't opened my account on phone and it automatically posted this as a reply to the main post while I was trying to reply to the comment. I don't know how to delete a comment.

 

I think if you import with QuickCPU shouldn't be necessary to rename it.
Not sure, I don't have this issue.

 

Let me know if you feel the need of an updated plan or isn't working with your CPU.
You'll need to be available to test it in case.

In any case I recommend to use CPUDoc, seems to work quite well on Core Ultra and Windows 11.